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  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Amy P. in reply to: 10 Lessons From My First CSA Box
    We're into Week 2 and still have not used burdock from the first week's box. I think tonight will be the night, though; gotta make myself try these new things! I think I've been spooked by others' comments about it. I'm sure it will be excellent, or at least interesting to try... When I talked with the Loon Organics farmer at Mill City Market this week, I mentioned the black radishes and she said if you can eat those, then the fresh red ones will be a snap! My 4-year-old liked the chives too; at least she licked them which is more than can be said for the other box items. :)
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Lee in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Hi Rob, Nothing yet, but I have a feeling we'll hear more soon. Great questions! Hang in there. -Lee
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Rob D in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Any chance for a follow up with Julie? Could she tell us more about arsenicals? For example, what are the state and federal limits for these ingredients? How are they introduced to the product? Is their use common practice among all large poultry processors? all large meat processors? Which chicken brand does she buy for herself or serve to her family?
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Lee in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Thanks KristenM, for continuing to get out the word on your awesome food site, and for weighing in on Just BARE Chicken and the larger issues around "Big O Organics," local food, and how to walk the fine line between supporting the little folks and encouraging the big folks to do the right thing. As always, thoughtful and well-said! -Lee
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: FoodRenegade in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    WOW. I'd love to read some honest labels for a change! Wouldn't that be amazing. LOL. How many people would buy the chicken if it came with a label that read, "raised with the use of antibiotics, arsenic, and animal by-products"? I think the big companies shifting towards more local products is a good thing, although it's still something I'd personally stay away from. If I were a consumer in a small town without a local farmer's market and had no real way to consume local food, I'd be thrilled to see this brand of chicken in my local Target and I'd buy it all up. But I do have a farmer's market near me (several in fact), and I'm a member of a CSA. AND I have great relationships with my farmers so that I can buy meat in bulk and save so much that it actually costs as little as "conventional" grocery store meat. So, I couldn't buy the Just BARE chicken and feel good about it. I remember years ago when Wal-Mart first started carrying organics. I went out of my way to buy them there just so that their buyer would know there was enough of a demand for organics that they wouldn't abandon the practice. Of course now that Big O organics are entrenched in Wal-Mart, I never step foot in the place. I know it's a fine line. But what we spend our money on is definitely sending a message to these corporations. We vote with our food dollars every time we buy food, and I'd much rather vote to support a local farmer directly. Thanks for sharing this in today's Fight Back Fridays carnival. Very thought provoking! Cheers, KristenM (AKA FoodRenegade)
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Lee in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Thanks you Suzanne and EcoYogini - for reading the post and for your thoughtful, passionate comments. There's a lot of excitement in the local food community around the idea of bringing new people into the fold, increasing awareness, and putting economic pressure on companies that are not willing to serve consumer needs. That excitement is tempered by an enormous helping of wariness, frustration, and the reality that new packaging alone does not equate to new farming practices. It can be hard for part-timers to sort out what's what. I appreciate your feedback, and the fact that you're willing to share your own views about this important stuff. Bring on the bad dinner guests. :-)
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: EcoYogini in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Wow- what an interesting and thought provoking post. I like Suzanne's comment too! I think it is worrisome when "big food" tries to monopolize a local, sustainable market. It reminds me of 'big organic' with some of Michael Pollan's examples in 'An Omnivore's Dilemma'; the small organic farmer who 'sold out' big... and now organic produce is being mass produced in monocultures using quite a bit of fuel, carbon and energy. Not really what I want to support. I agree with Suzanne, and I know this places me in a 'elitist' position, but I just don't like the idea of supporting a company that continues to pollute the planet and our bodies. I do think that it is very important to consider both sides and to continually re-evaluate my position as information becomes available. Thanks for this excellent post!
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Suzanne Stenson O'Brien in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary
    Hey! Great post. Years ago, I produced The Eat Well Guide (www.eatwellguide.org) for IATP, a great organization with great work on food. I learned to be a really bad dinner guest ("Did you know...") and I learned that the corporate food system has some inherent flaws. You've hit on one of them here. The profit motive drives some people and their companies to overlook ethical considerations in order to produce more-more-more. On one hand, supporting BARE products does help create an even greater (mainstream) demand (perhaps) but it also continues an investment in companies who have done well by doing badly. I think that's wrong, from an ethical standpoint. I guess I would rather source my meat, when I eat it, from a directory like The Eat Well Guide (I just used it last weekend to find grassfed beef in Saint Paul!), which tends toward a local economy AND healthful pickin's. I want farmers to know that they don't have to sign up with the Gold'n Plumps of the world to make it as a food provider. Finally, on the arsenic issue: this is one of those 'bad dinner guest' moments, but arsenic (yes, let's just call it what it is) is used to decontaminate food, whose contamination mostly results from inhumane containment systems for the animals. It's the same reason antibiotics are used so heavily. The arsenic mostly doesn't accrue in the animal, but it is released in their feces, which them provides a direct environmental problem. In the southeast, a chicken company (I forget which one) used the guano from their arsenic operation to fertilize nearby cropland. Guess what? Arsenic is a persistent pollutant. Duh. In my opinion, it's best to just stay away from these companies until they change their evil ways entirely. They know the market is shifting, in this country at least, among those of us who can afford it, or they wouldn't be introducing these kinds of products. Plenty of people will buy their BARE chicken. It doesn't have to be you. Or me. Hopefully that's not too much of an elitest reply. Suzanne
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Lee in reply to: 10 Lessons From My First CSA Box
    Thanks Rob. Poor, unloved burdock! I actually liked it, but I can't say I was unhappy that a second batch didn't arrive last night. Got more black radishes, though. That stresses me out just a little bit. :-) What foods will you struggle with in your first box? Thanks, Lee
  • 14 years 20 weeks ago by: Just BARE Chicken, Part 2: The Commentary | Simple, Good, an in reply to: Just BARE Chicken, Part 1: The Interview
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